Ender Dragon and Dragon heart problem / Spawn shop item suggestion

[Endmord]

Heyo,

some players noticed that Ender Dragon does not drop Dragon Heart anymore. Seems like it was changed on the last modpack update?
Now player needs a Treasure ring trinket, so dragon could drop her heart. Can it be added to the spawn shop?

[Eternalite]

Hi there

 

Please try killing the dragon away from the bedrock regeneration pedestal/bedrock portal. It does drop a dragon heart by default when killed without the tressure ring trinket. The Dragon's heart spawns a few blocks above the original location of the dragon's egg above the portal so remember to check there.

Report back here if doing the same doesn't work! 

[Henk]

 

Dragon heart spawns here

[ZapTaX]

Hi all!

I am one of those players who wrote with Endmord about that topic in the beginning - So we just waited for any answer. As u described, we have tried it now multiple times (nearly 10 times) and not a single heart dropped or spawned above the bedrock. We did also kill the dragon away from the bedrock portal, but still no heart dropped. We dont know what we could do else.

Sadly, the small crates (which you can only find under water) are so freaking rare, so with the droprate of the treasure ring with 3.23% this item is even rarer... We have spent multiple hours to find a small amount of those small crates (under 10), but without any success.

It is kinda frustrating and we look forward to get some help with that case.

 

Thank you in advance,

ZapTaX

[Eternalite]

Thanks for reporting the same @ZapTaX and @Endmord. We will look into it! 

[Endmord]

I tried it again and now it worked perfectly, cant say where is it coming, but sometimes dragon drops her heart sometimes not. But right now seems to be dropping.

Thank you for investigating :3

[Henk]

I can't fully explain why the Ender Dragon isn't dropping a Dragon Heart for you, I've heard it be reported by other players too but every time I have tried it has worked fine with me. 

But I don't really think that either dragon fight is really that good of an experience on a server especially with render distance being the way it is. I often lost the dragon when I was trying to fight it. And the Chaos Guardian is 10s of thousands of blocks out, and the idea that players are zooming through the end trying to find one that isn't already killed scares me. And for that reason, I have added an alternative way of getting both the Chaos Shards and Dragon Hearts. These can be found in your quest book under "Craftersland" and are both repeatable.

The idea isn't to devalue the items, so the tasks should still be difficult or inconvenient to make. So the dragon heart requires all the Wyvern gear, tedious to craft but the idea is that you're only suppose to complete this a few times and then move on to Awakened Draconium Seeds.

 

Same goes with Chaos Shards, we don't want to devalue the item so making the tasks for it expensive was important. But also want it to be approachable enough to that some players might choose this method over fighting Chaos Guardians, where as the other way of getting Chaos Shards - With Creative Essence - isn't approachable enough.
There is no denying that this is a a very pricy quest but it promotes finding a good way to automate the Fusion Crafting, and as well as setting up a strong Blazing Sluice setup to afford the Ultimate Induction Cells. Alternatively, if you are further advanced in Mystical Agriculture you could setup a Botany Pot setup

The three singularities requires are: HPDE Sheet Singularity, Terrasteel Nugget Singularity, Tesseract Singularity.
HDPE doesn't require a super complex automated setup with Mekanism, and a setup that you will eventually use for your Fusion Reactor if you haven't advanced that far yet(For the Solar Neutron Activators)
Terrasteel Nuggets should be pretty straight forward since there is a Terrasteel Seed so that can easily be automated.
And Tesseract is more annoying than anything else


All of these are subject to change. This is mostly a test to see if it's practical way of offering either of these items Enjoy!

[Endmord]

Some of my thoughts about new quest:

Killing usual dragon is pretty easy even with midgame armor, lets say netherite armor + supremium cleaver. Maybe wyvern tools are too much for the heart?

Chaos shards, its cool that there is alternative, but imho id like to just fastkill dragon and get 10 shards, other than crafting this amount of items. Maybe its possible to decrease item types needed, but increase their amount. Like 1 shards - 1k awake blocks or even more. Most of us got awake seeds, so its pretty easy to get, but it will need good amount of pots and time to get to that point .

 

OOoor, making some kind of taxed teleport to the new Chaos Islands, so no tons of new chunks generated + happy players than can pay and tp to chaotic instantly.

[Henk]

I’m actually pretty pleased with how the quest turned out and the effort required to complete it(speaking of chaos shard) and if it were to change I would either up the chaos shard rewarded or lower the amount of items required for the task, but not change the core items in itself.

I would not want to turn it into something like a truckload of awakened draconium, because that can so easily be scaled up and it would devalue the chaos shard, which with my initial comment was my main goal not to do.

 

As for the normal heart, I don’t mind that killing the dragon normally would be seen as easie or better. That quest is merely there as a convinience for those that don’t want to deal with fighting a dragon on a multiplayer server. And I don’t think that craft is especially unreasonable  and luckily, the point of it is to only complete it once, maybe twice. Compared to the chaos shards.

 

I do like the idea of offering instant teleport to chaos dragon locations and it’s something that’s crossed my mind already— but that would require a custom plugins to support. And while I will bring it forward to Bruny about developing, I do think he has other priorities.

[Vovics]

I have related issue - cannot obtail "Dragon Scale" from Mystical Agradditions.

I kill dragons several times, have >20 hearts, but non of these Scales.

Dragon drops some "Dragon Scale" from Tinkers Construct mod, that may be the source of problem. But these scales are not compatible in crafting recipes.

As a solution - maybe add them to spawn shop?

BTW about not dropping Dragon Hearts - have same problem, periodically. I guess server global entity limit (or similar option) cought affect this. Because when dragon not dropping hearts, it not dropping any other loot too. Also, vanilla spawners not spawning any mobs. After some time or after restart - everything returns to normal.